"The miracle, the only miracle is that science exists" - Einstein. The 'created' cannot know his/its creator, this is the difference between the created and THE CREATOR. Moreover God has not empowered Himself with the power to reward or punish anybody; He has created a vast autometon that works/follows certain laws that He does not need to break. When a cow gives birth to a calf, within minutes it gets up and drinks milk from mother. Why don't you all get together and create a world in which science is possible - prediction is possible. Does 'matter' you 'create' from knoeledge about it possess, exhibit and provide the same knowledge again? After you answer, my next question is, 'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer, He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world but deep within himself he can never find peace. We can never know what sort of punishment he is having. Many of us use the term 'space-time continuum' to explain gravity, the ultimate internal srtucture of matter etc. But none of us seems to be able to accept the essential characteristics of a 'continuum'. A 'Field' is a continuum. Can any one explain the essential characteristic of a 'space-time continuum'?
> "The miracle, the only miracle is that science exists" - Einstein. > The 'created' cannot know his/its creator, this is the difference > between the created and THE CREATOR. Moreover God has not empowered > Himself with the power to reward or punish anybody; He has created > a vast autometon that works/follows certain laws that He does not > need to break. When a cow gives birth to a calf, within minutes it > gets up and drinks milk from mother. Why don't you all get together > and create a world in which science is possible - prediction is > possible. Does 'matter' you 'create' from knoeledge about it possess, > exhibit and provide the same knowledge again? After you answer, my > next question is, 'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer, > He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is > 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world > but deep within himself he can never find peace. We can never know > what sort of punishment he is having. > Many of us use the term 'space-time continuum' to explain gravity, > the ultimate internal srtucture of matter etc. But none of us seems > to be able to accept the essential characteristics of a 'continuum'. > A 'Field' is a continuum. Can any one explain the essential > characteristic of a 'space-time continuum'?
God is the pure absense of data. No true direct knowledge can ever be known about God. God is a nessary feature of intelligent systems and functions much like the end-of-file character in a computer.
>> "V.Gopal" <vgopa...@rediffmail.com> wrote garbage
>> Twit.
> Did you notice how Mike Varney signed his message "Twit" ? > This means he is a Twit ! > Dave...
This is certainly a very interesting phenomenon to observe.
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> God is the pure absense of data. No true direct knowledge can ever be known > about God. God is a nessary feature of intelligent systems and functions > much like the end-of-file character in a computer.
Uhhh..... and I was told God-self wanted us to know everything about God by giving us the well referred book - for intance. And now you tell me that is not true. Who told you that we cannot get direct knowledge, if the direct knowledge was given? Anyway, this begin to be funny... ;-)
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> He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is > 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world > but deep within himself he can never find peace.
If Almighty God exists, then, were it only possible, an ALMIGHTIER God should drag him into a Cosmic Courtroom for, through his heartless lack of interference, aiding and abetting in the monstrous crimes of murderers, warmongers, bigots, liars, sadists, jingoists, power abusers, power worshippers, quiet collaborators with evil, and all the willfully crass and arrogant men and women everywhere, who quite comfortably have lived and quite comfortably have died through the ebb and flux of Human History.
And do not think all the entropy generating hordes like these above are not "experiencing peace", because, gruesomely enough, they all are....
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"V.Gopal" <vgopa...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
> "The miracle, the only miracle is that science exists" - Einstein. > The 'created' cannot know his/its creator, this is the difference > between the created and THE CREATOR. Moreover God has not empowered > Himself with the power to reward or punish anybody; He has created > a vast autometon that works/follows certain laws that He does not > need to break. When a cow gives birth to a calf, within minutes it > gets up and drinks milk from mother. Why don't you all get together > and create a world in which science is possible - prediction is > possible. Does 'matter' you 'create' from knoeledge about it possess, > exhibit and provide the same knowledge again? After you answer, my > next question is, 'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer, > He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is > 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world > but deep within himself he can never find peace. We can never know > what sort of punishment he is having. > Many of us use the term 'space-time continuum' to explain gravity, > the ultimate internal srtucture of matter etc. But none of us seems > to be able to accept the essential characteristics of a 'continuum'. > A 'Field' is a continuum. Can any one explain the essential > characteristic of a 'space-time continuum'?
> "Dave Ulmer" <daveul...@NOTccwebster.net> wrote in message > news:utnr0ngt3uo25e@corp.supernews.com... > > Did you notice how Mike Varney signed his message "Twit" ?
> > This means he is a Twit !
> It's not a signature if there isn't a body of text to be signing.. in this > case the message was "Twit.", twit.
Q. What goes "Twit, twit" A. Arnold Schwatrzencanary
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> [Previous] > 'Why?' God is not required to punish the wrong doer, > > He has 'programmed' it in such a way that even the punishment is > > 'automatic'. A wrong doer may seem to happy to the outside world > > but deep within himself he can never find peace.
> If Almighty God exists, then, were it only possible, an ALMIGHTIER God > should drag him into a Cosmic Courtroom for, through his heartless lack of > interference, aiding and abetting in the monstrous crimes of murderers, > warmongers, bigots, liars, sadists, jingoists, power abusers, power > worshippers, quiet collaborators with evil, and all the willfully crass and > arrogant men and women everywhere, who quite comfortably have lived and > quite comfortably have died through the ebb and flux of Human
History.
If God interfered, you would be denied freedom: the freedom to prevent evil acts, to denigrate evil acts, as well as to commit evil acts. We possess an incredible gift: freedom to think about the consequences of actions as well as to take them.
Gods active force exsist ,,,but gods not talking to a few people from some stupid planet . If e talked you your planet then wy not talk to all the planets . Your not so stupid you think life is only on your planet !
> Gods active force exsist ,,,but gods not talking to a few people from > some stupid planet . > If e talked you your planet then wy not talk to all the planets . Your > not so stupid you think life is only on your planet !
He must talk to you all the time.. from the above rant I would say you confuse HIM when you talk back.. he talks to the other guys about the voices he hears in head and they just pity him and say, "It's okay Jehovah.. if you keep hearing this tj voice you can seek counseling to make it better."
I remember seeing once in a computer related newsgroup, the statement: God is real. This surprised me since I did not expect theology to be discussed in that group. I read on and found the qualification: unless declared integer. It was in fact a joke which required a knowledge of the old programming language Fortran. In this language, variables do not need to be declared. If they start with I, J, K, L, M or N then they will be assumed to be integer and anything else will be assumed to be real. A variable could be explicitly declared as Integer, Real or Complex whatever the name. Hence in the rules of Fortran: GOD is a real variable unless declared as integer. Or more tersely: God is real unless declared integer.
The theory of God goes well with Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. This is probably true because this uncertainty principle is used in the BB theory. The "G" in my GUT equation can be for God or Gravity. I'll go with uncertainty and say maybe,but I'm leaning towards "no" God is in my minds eye more hypothetical than the BB. The bible is like a fairy tail. Not all bibles are exactly alike. I would think just reading the bible in the French language would have a nice tone to it(pretty language) I was told that Hebrew language is great for poetry. Can't think of any poetry in the bible,or any humor. Lots of smitting,and begetting(killing and sex) a little slavery,and a lot of pain. Who needs it,It has not changed anything and no man has ever lived that has not broken at lest one of the ten commandments. Bert
> Integer, Real or Complex whatever the name. Hence in the rules of > Fortran: GOD is a real variable unless declared as integer. Or more > tersely: God is real unless declared integer.
This reminds me of another case of 'terse' documentation, the old att unix 'man' page for the commands 'true' and 'false': 'true does nothing successfully' 'false does nothing unsuccessfully'
It took me a little bit to take them in[1], and I've been irreparably damaged since:)
MK
[1] In essence they meant neither command has any side-effect, but returns the truth-value 'success'/'fail' in place of true/false invocations, which in unix are Zero/NonZero integers respectively. (one way to succeed, many ways to fail)
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