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V.Gopal  
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 More options Nov 8 2002, 8:39 am
Newsgroups: sci.math, sci.physics, sci.logic
From: vgopa...@rediffmail.com (V.Gopal)
Date: 7 Nov 2002 19:09:15 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 8 2002 8:39 am
Subject: What is wrong in geometry?part4
In plane coordinate geometry the numerical expression in terms of X
and Y does not specify the slope at the point (X,Y), what ever value
we may assign to the cordinates X and Y; coordinates (X,Y) and the slope
or the Tangent AT (X,Y) are/remain independent variable. Therefore the
numerical expression (formula) does not reveal how the slope (Tangent)
varies between any two points (x1,y1) and (x2,y2) or between (x2,y2) and
(x3,y3). Therefore in coordinate geometry we have only logical ways of
'connecting' any two consecutive points: (1) connect (x1,y1) and (x2,y1)
then connect (x2,y1) and (x2,y2). This way we construct 'curvature' of a
'curved' line in terms of infinitely small 'steps' in the shape of right
angles. (2) connect (x1,y1), (x2,y2), (x3.y3) etc by a series of straight
lines. In this case each of the points (x1,y1), (x2,y2), (x3,y3) etc.
conceal within themselves infinite number of 'slopes' or Tangents, which
should logically have benn distributed in the space between the points.
Coordinate geometry is not what it pretends to be; it only generates
a system of configuration of disconnected points. The problem with
numerical expressions is that there are always 'numbers' between any two
'consecutive' (specified) numbers. Therefore, unless we eliminate numbers
we cannor GET lines and surfaces.
May the noble minded scholars kindly correct any error committed through
dullness of my intellect.

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Eric Gisse  
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 More options Nov 8 2002, 10:22 am
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From: Eric Gisse <kseggREMO...@uas.alaska.edu>
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:49:59 -0900
Local: Fri, Nov 8 2002 10:19 am
Subject: Re: What is wrong in geometry?part4
On 7 Nov 2002 19:09:15 -0800, vgopa...@rediffmail.com (V.Gopal) wrote:

<snip>

Again, your newsreader is broken.

Or is that how it comes out? As a continious stream of spew?


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Ollie  
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 More options Nov 8 2002, 2:30 pm
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From: "Ollie" <oliver.roberts...@bnc.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:00:27 -0000
Local: Fri, Nov 8 2002 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: What is wrong in geometry?part4
Now I'm just a moronic student, but seems like you're "doing a Zeno" to me,
there are things called limits and infinity/infinitesimals...

"V.Gopal" <vgopa...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message

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Mark Fergerson  
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 More options Nov 9 2002, 4:50 am
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From: Mark Fergerson <mfergers...@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 23:20:11 GMT
Local: Sat, Nov 9 2002 4:50 am
Subject: Re: What is wrong in geometry?part4

"V.Gopal" wrote:

  There're these new invention called
"sentences" and "paragraphs". You might
want to investigate them.
Stream-of-consciousnes is inappropriate
in the groups posted to.

> In plane coordinate geometry the numerical expression in terms of X
> and Y does not specify the slope at the point (X,Y),

  Right so far...

> ... what ever value
> we may assign to the cordinates X and Y; coordinates (X,Y) and the slope
> or the Tangent AT (X,Y) are/remain independent variable.

  Do you know how "slope" is defined?

> ... Therefore the
> numerical expression (formula) does not reveal how the slope (Tangent)
> varies between any two points (x1,y1) and (x2,y2) or between (x2,y2) and
> (x3,y3). Therefore in coordinate geometry we have only logical ways of
> 'connecting' any two consecutive points: (1) connect (x1,y1) and (x2,y1)
> then connect (x2,y1) and (x2,y2). This way we construct 'curvature' of a
> 'curved' line in terms of infinitely small 'steps' in the shape of right
> angles. (2) connect (x1,y1), (x2,y2), (x3.y3) etc by a series of straight
> lines. In this case each of the points (x1,y1), (x2,y2), (x3,y3) etc.
> conceal within themselves infinite number of 'slopes' or Tangents, which
> should logically have benn distributed in the space between the points.

  Do you know how "tangent" is defined?

> Coordinate geometry is not what it pretends to be; it only generates
> a system of configuration of disconnected points. The problem with
> numerical expressions is that there are always 'numbers' between any two
> 'consecutive' (specified) numbers.

  Do you know the difference between
"describe" and "define"?

> ... Therefore, unless we eliminate numbers
> we cannor GET lines and surfaces.

  If you eliminate numbers, you cannot
GET anything.

> May the noble minded scholars kindly correct any error committed through
> dullness of my intellect.

  We don't need no steenkin' "noble
minds". Math is adequate.

  Mark L. Fergerson


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