My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer has insufficient knowledge. He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really recreational swimming. The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 metres wide. Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths? Thank you.
Thank you, that is helpful. My grandson is very competent and is junior cl;ub champion; he is well placed at junior district level but I do not think that he will reach national level even as a junior, however he is very keen, especially on the butterfly. A 4.5 meter wide pool will obviously give 2 lanes and that may do but will he get a lot of backwash after the turns? The pool will have over the top spillways so flush with floor. I think they are limited to 20 metres losng because of the size of the house basement. Thanks again.
> On 30 Jan, > Stewart <twodunc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has > > asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer > > has insufficient knowledge. > > He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really > > recreational swimming. > > The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 > > metres wide.
> Depends how serious. If training for Olympics then too short. For extra > training at club swimmer level then perfectly adequate. As a coach I've used > pools 20m long (5 lengths to 100m), 1metre deep, and about 7 metres wide (3 > lanes), not all the dimensions at teh same time.
> For a single swimmer I'd say OK, but 25m would be a better option, and 1.2m > isn't deep enough for diving if not well skilled.
> > Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool > > - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths?
> Try the FINA website. Serious money though. not backyard pools.
> My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has > asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer > has insufficient knowledge. > He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really > recreational swimming. > The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 > metres wide. > Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool > - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths? > Thank you.
20 metres is good for a privately owned pool, but if he is 'seriously' training for competition 25 would be better (if he can), as no serious competition is held in anything under 25 metres. -- Duncan Heenan
On Jan 30, 12:39 pm, Stewart <twodunc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has > asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer > has insufficient knowledge. > He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really > recreational swimming. > The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 > metres wide. > Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool > - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths? > Thank you.
I think 20 meters is too short for serious training. Timing for turns would be disrupted. Not that I think that is a serious problem, but the increased number of turns would mean that an inordinate percentage of each length would be nothing but push-off from each end.
If I were putting a pool in at my home, I really think I would get one of these "endless" pools, because my main purpose would be fitness (and meditation, oddly enough). I expext an endless pool will cost less and it will certainly take up less space. If it is meant to be an adjunct to serious training, I think it is a better solution.
Stewart wrote: > My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has > asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer > has insufficient knowledge. > He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really > recreational swimming. > The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 > metres wide. > Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool > - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths? > Thank you.
Here is a pool that I had built in my backyard in south Florida. I hope the current owners don't mind me showing it off.
The dimensions are 20 yds long with a minimum 10 foot wide lane. The wide portion of the P is 20 ft. Note the steps in the narrow shallow end extend away from the lane rather than in to it. The lighting is offset so as to not interfere with turns. IIRC the pool was 3 1/2 feet deep to 6 1/2 feet deep. I had 4 inch tile laid for the lane marker.
The pool was some what wavey and real lane ropes would have probably helped. I didn't want the complexity and needed to use a solar blanket for mid winter swimming. The pool was built 25years ago and is based on a design my father did for the pool in my family's house when I was growing up 45 years ago. It is a great compromise for a lap pool and fun pool. Brings back found memories - Glad to see it still in use.
The only thing that I would do differently is to put a swim out (like you see divers use)in the deep end.
Hope this gives you an idea of what can be built using gunnite construction.
> Stewart wrote: > > My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has > > asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer > > has insufficient knowledge. > > He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really > > recreational swimming. > > The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 > > metres wide. > > Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool > > - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths? > > Thank you.
> Here is a pool that I had built in my backyard in south Florida. I hope > the current owners don't mind me showing it off.
> The dimensions are 20 yds long with a minimum 10 foot wide lane. The > wide portion of the P is 20 ft. Note the steps in the narrow shallow end > extend away from the lane rather than in to it. The lighting is offset > so as to not interfere with turns. IIRC the pool was 3 1/2 feet deep to > 6 1/2 feet deep. I had 4 inch tile laid for the lane marker.
> The pool was some what wavey and real lane ropes would have probably > helped. I didn't want the complexity and needed to use a solar blanket > for mid winter swimming. The pool was built 25years ago and is based on > a design my father did for the pool in my family's house when I was > growing up 45 years ago. It is a great compromise for a lap pool and fun > pool. Brings back found memories - Glad to see it still in use.
> The only thing that I would do differently is to put a swim out (like > you see divers use)in the deep end.
> Hope this gives you an idea of what can be built using gunnite construction.
I almost forgot that I had massaging water jets on the shallow end steps (walk in). That helped me swing the pool with my wife :-) Also the contractors didn't know how to price the pool because a lot of them go by square footage of the water area (they do a lot of blob shaped pools). This one had a lot of material in the perimeter walls and it wasn't psuedo circular.
Like I recommend before, a two step swim out in the deep end would be better than a never used stainless ladder - except for little kids that go for ladders.
I have also seen a two lane 25 yd pool made out of stainless steel with lane rope attachments. The owner put it in for swimming and it also served as a water supply in case of fire. He lived on a farm in the country and his house was worth several millions $.
Hope to get an invite over to take a swim when it is finished. ;-)
Stewart wrote: > Thank you, that is useful. I could see the pool quite clearly and > like the idea of a "walk in" as a spur at one end.
> On Feb 1, 2:19 pm, Ghost Rider <ghostrid...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> Stewart wrote: >>> My son is building a new house with a 20 metre swimming pool. He has >>> asked me to advise on the dimensions as he thinks that the engineer >>> has insufficient knowledge. >>> He is a serious swimmer and wants to do lengths; not really >>> recreational swimming. >>> The pool could be around 20 metres long, 1.2 metres deep and 4.5 >>> metres wide. >>> Is there any data on the most suitable width and depth for such a pool >>> - to avoid backwash etc in doing lengths? >>> Thank you. >> Here is a pool that I had built in my backyard in south Florida. I hope >> the current owners don't mind me showing it off.
>> The dimensions are 20 yds long with a minimum 10 foot wide lane. The >> wide portion of the P is 20 ft. Note the steps in the narrow shallow end >> extend away from the lane rather than in to it. The lighting is offset >> so as to not interfere with turns. IIRC the pool was 3 1/2 feet deep to >> 6 1/2 feet deep. I had 4 inch tile laid for the lane marker.
>> The pool was some what wavey and real lane ropes would have probably >> helped. I didn't want the complexity and needed to use a solar blanket >> for mid winter swimming. The pool was built 25years ago and is based on >> a design my father did for the pool in my family's house when I was >> growing up 45 years ago. It is a great compromise for a lap pool and fun >> pool. Brings back found memories - Glad to see it still in use.
>> The only thing that I would do differently is to put a swim out (like >> you see divers use)in the deep end.
>> Hope this gives you an idea of what can be built using gunnite construction.
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