It is not known Shri Raamakrishna, Shri Viveakananda or any other Swamis of Raamakrishna Math reconverted Christians or Muslims back into Hinduism. In fact it is known that Ramakrishna Mission fought a court case that the Swamis of Raamakrishna Math were not Hindus. I do not know the details, but if anybody can tell me about this court case and the court verdict, I shall feel obliged.
Here is a case of reconversion .In December 1910, the Holy Mother started for Kothaar in the Baalaasore district of Orissaa en route to Raameshwaram, the Famous place of pilgrimage in the south. She stayed for about 2 months in Kothaar, the headquarters of Balaraam Bose’s estate in Orissaa. One Devendranaath Chatterjee , postmaster of Kothaar-who had once accepted Christianity and now repenting of his action wanted to come back to Hinduism. He got reconverted to Hinduism with Holy mother’s approval. After certain purificatory ceremonies, one of the Holy Mother’s monastic followers gave him the sacred thread and the Gayatri mantra. The next day he was initiated by the Mother herself.
*Thought for the day*
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*Success of a religious body depends not on its external achievements; efficient organization, its buildings, the size of its membership* *or its philanthropic activities* *but upon the inner life of each of its members and the measure of their progress towards devotion and knowledge of God. –Swaami Brahmaanand*
* *
One should not go after religious bodies which are spreading on the strength of money, media, inducements and force. The religious head should be asked, “Have you seen God? Have you shown God to others?” To these direct questions only one person could answer directly in the affirmative. “Yes! I have seen god! I have shown Him to others and I can show Him to You!” That person is Bhagavaan Raamakrishna Paramhans.
To a large extent, the Ramakrishna Mission has avoided controversies through
its policy of non-involvement in politics.
In 1980, however, in an act that caused "considerable debate" within the
Order, the Mission petitioned the courts to have their organization and
movement declared a non-Hindu minority religion. It is possible that this
was because they believed there was a danger that the local marxist
government would take control of its schools unless it could invoke the
extra protection the Indian constitution accords to minority religions. The
Supreme Court of India ruled against the Mission in 1995. The leadership
today embraces the Mission's status as a Hindu organization.
> It is not known Shri Raamakrishna, Shri Viveakananda or any other Swamis of
> Raamakrishna Math reconverted Christians or Muslims back into Hinduism. In
> fact it is known that Ramakrishna Mission fought a court case that the
> Swamis of Raamakrishna Math were not Hindus. I do not know the details, but
> if anybody can tell me about this court case and the court verdict, I shall
> feel obliged.
> Here is a case of reconversion .In December 1910, the Holy
> Mother started for Kothaar in the Baalaasore district of Orissaa en route to
> Raameshwaram, the Famous place of pilgrimage in the south. She stayed for
> about 2 months in Kothaar, the headquarters of Balaraam Bose’s estate in
> Orissaa. One Devendranaath Chatterjee , postmaster of Kothaar-who had
> once accepted Christianity and now repenting of his action wanted to come
> back to Hinduism. He got reconverted to Hinduism with Holy mother’s
> approval. After certain purificatory ceremonies, one of the Holy Mother’s
> monastic followers gave him the sacred thread and the Gayatri mantra. The
> next day he was initiated by the Mother herself.
> *Thought for the day*
> * *
> *Success of a religious body depends not on its external achievements;
> efficient organization, its buildings, the size of its membership* *or its
> philanthropic activities* *but upon the inner life of each of its members
> and the measure of their progress towards devotion and knowledge of God.
> –Swaami Brahmaanand*
> * *
> One should not go after religious bodies which are spreading on the
> strength of money, media, inducements and force. The religious head should
> be asked, “Have you seen God? Have you shown God to others?” To these direct
> questions only one person could answer directly in the affirmative. “Yes! I
> have seen god! I have shown Him to others and I can show Him to You!” That
> person is Bhagavaan Raamakrishna Paramhans.
I know of some non-Hindus taking initiation in our Math. They are mostly
from Muslim community and they felt a change in them when they first visited
the Math. This moved them to take initiation. But this does not change their
faith. They continue to be Muslims but repeat the Mantra given to them by
the Guru. They are devoted to Sri Ramakrishna.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Sandeep Das <sri.sandeep....@gmail.com>wrote:
> To a large extent, the Ramakrishna Mission has avoided controversies
> through its policy of non-involvement in politics.
> In 1980, however, in an act that caused "considerable debate" within the
> Order, the Mission petitioned the courts to have their organization and
> movement declared a non-Hindu minority religion. It is possible that this
> was because they believed there was a danger that the local marxist
> government would take control of its schools unless it could invoke the
> extra protection the Indian constitution accords to minority religions. The
> Supreme Court of India ruled against the Mission in 1995. The leadership
> today embraces the Mission's status as a Hindu organization.
>> It is not known Shri Raamakrishna, Shri Viveakananda or any other Swamis
>> of Raamakrishna Math reconverted Christians or Muslims back into Hinduism.
>> In fact it is known that Ramakrishna Mission fought a court case that
>> the Swamis of Raamakrishna Math were not Hindus. I do not know the details,
>> but if anybody can tell me about this court case and the court verdict, I
>> shall feel obliged.
>> Here is a case of reconversion .In December 1910, the Holy
>> Mother started for Kothaar in the Baalaasore district of Orissaa en route to
>> Raameshwaram, the Famous place of pilgrimage in the south. She stayed for
>> about 2 months in Kothaar, the headquarters of Balaraam Bose’s estate in
>> Orissaa. One Devendranaath Chatterjee , postmaster of Kothaar-who had
>> once accepted Christianity and now repenting of his action wanted to come
>> back to Hinduism. He got reconverted to Hinduism with Holy mother’s
>> approval. After certain purificatory ceremonies, one of the Holy Mother’s
>> monastic followers gave him the sacred thread and the Gayatri mantra. The
>> next day he was initiated by the Mother herself.
>> *Thought for the day*
>> * *
>> *Success of a religious body depends not on its external achievements;
>> efficient organization, its buildings, the size of its membership* *or
>> its philanthropic activities* *but upon the inner life of each of its
>> members and the measure of their progress towards devotion and knowledge of
>> God. –Swaami Brahmaanand*
>> * *
>> One should not go after religious bodies which are spreading on the
>> strength of money, media, inducements and force. The religious head should
>> be asked, “Have you seen God? Have you shown God to others?” To these direct
>> questions only one person could answer directly in the affirmative. “Yes! I
>> have seen god! I have shown Him to others and I can show Him to You!” That
>> person is Bhagavaan Raamakrishna Paramhans.
Background to Case
As the writ petition filed in the Calcutta High court, which has led to the present appeals related to the Ramakrishna Mission Vivekananda Centery College at Rahra – Ramakrishna Mission College Based on a Central and State govt grant on mission land was constructed the said college. The Deputy Secretary to the Govt of West Bengal wrote to the Registrar of the Calcutta University intimating him of the three-year degree college to be set up under the auspices of the Ramakrishna Mission and its readiness to manage to the college through a Governing Body to be constituted by it. The University granted affiliation to the proposed college but also accorded approval to Governing Body of that College as constituted by Ramakrishna Mission. Thereafter, the Governing Body of the College as constituted by the Mission from time to time with special approval obtained from the State Govt and University, continued to administer the affairs of the College. The Mission
did not have a governing body modeled on the common pattern of governing bodies of sponsored colleges. However, in 1978 the Deputy Secretary to the Govt of West Bengal stated that the govt was feeling the need for revising the existing pattern for composition of Governing Bodies of govt sponsored colleges on a standard pattern excepting where the college concerned had a special constitution on the basis of Trust Deed or where the college was run by Missionary Societies on the basis of agreement with respective Missions.
In 1980 when a new principal Swami Shivamoyananda was appointed the Teachers Council went on strike, took over the management of the College and prevented the new principal from functioning but also made Prof A.R.Das Gupta to function as principal. The Mission and Secretary instituted a civil suit seeking a declaration that the functioning of Shri Gupta as principal and 14 professors was illegal.
The teachers etc in the High Court sought for the issue of a writ asking the West Bengal govt to reconstitute the governing body according to the standard pattern referred to above, a writ restraining the new principal from acting as principal of the Mission college & a writ declaring that the Mission college is governed by the W.B. Act of 1975 & 1978.
The Mission resisted these writs. Meanwhile the Calcutta University sent the Mission notices for reconstituting the governing bodies of three other colleges run by the mission. A learned single Judge of the High Court dismissed the notices issued by the Calcutta University on the premise that the Mission comprised of followers of the Ramakrishna Religion and were thus protected under article 30 (1) of the Constitution. The aggrieved parties i.e. the teachers, Calcutta University and West Bengal govt filed appeals but a Division Bench of the High Court dismissed the appeals agreeing that the followers of the Mission were a minority based on religion and entitled to protection under article 30 (1) of the Constitution.
The matter went to the Supreme Court. Swami Ramananda set out the features of Ramakrishna religion. The Court held that Ramakrishna Religion was very much part of Hindu religion and thus could not like Christian colleges, avail of Constitutional benefits granted by article 30 (1). However, the Court said that considering the special circumstances in which the College at Rahra came into existence, ‘we feel the interests of Justice may suffer by directing the State Govt to constitute its own governing body on standard pattern of the usual sponsored colleges, as prayed for by the writ petitioners. But, the view expressed herein shall not come in the way of the State govt wanting to change their earlier arrangement with the Mission college.(sorce from net and the law magazine)
If you want to read entire case along with the findings of the supreme court you can bring the book from any lawyer and read it. i.e.(1995)4 scc 646-Bramchari siddheswar V/S State of U P
From: samhita prabhu <samhitapra...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Devotees of Holy Trio:17965] A case of Re-conversion
To: holy_trinity@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:07 AM
A Case of Re-conversion
It is not known Shri Raamakrishna, Shri Viveakananda or any other Swamis of Raamakrishna Math reconverted Christians or Muslims back into Hinduism. In fact it is known that Ramakrishna Mission fought a court case that the Swamis of Raamakrishna Math were not Hindus. I do not know the details, but if anybody can tell me about this court case and the court verdict, I shall feel obliged.
Here is a case of reconversion .In December 1910, the Holy Mother started for Kothaar in the Baalaasore district of Orissaa en route to Raameshwaram, the Famous place of pilgrimage in the south. She stayed for about 2 months in Kothaar, the headquarters of Balaraam Bose’s estate in Orissaa. One Devendranaath Chatterjee , postmaster of Kothaar-who had once accepted Christianity and now repenting of his action wanted to come back to Hinduism. He got reconverted to Hinduism with Holy mother’s approval. After certain purificatory ceremonies, one of the Holy Mother’s monastic followers gave him the sacred thread and the Gayatri mantra. The next day he was initiated by the Mother herself.
Thought for the day
Success of a religious body depends not on its external achievements; efficient organization, its buildings, the size of its membership or its philanthropic activities but upon the inner life of each of its members and the measure of their progress towards devotion and knowledge of God. –Swaami Brahmaanand
One should not go after religious bodies which are spreading on the strength of money, media, inducements and force. The religious head should be asked, “Have you seen God? Have you shown God to others?” To these direct questions only one person could answer directly in the affirmative. “Yes! I have seen god! I have shown Him to others and I can show Him to You!” That person is Bhagavaan Raamakrishna Paramhans.
--- On Fri, 11/20/09, samhita prabhu <samhitapra...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: samhita prabhu <samhitapra...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Devotees of Holy Trio:17965] A case of Re-conversion
To: holy_trinity@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:07 AM
A Case of Re-conversion
It is not known Shri Raamakrishna, Shri Viveakananda or any other Swamis of Raamakrishna Math reconverted Christians or Muslims back into Hinduism. In fact it is known that Ramakrishna Mission fought a court case that the Swamis of Raamakrishna Math were not Hindus. I do not know the details, but if anybody can tell me about this court case and the court verdict, I shall feel obliged.
Here is a case of reconversion .In December 1910, the Holy Mother started for Kothaar in the Baalaasore district of Orissaa en route to Raameshwaram, the Famous place of pilgrimage in the south. She stayed for about 2 months in Kothaar, the headquarters of Balaraam Bose’s estate in Orissaa. One Devendranaath Chatterjee , postmaster of Kothaar-who had once accepted Christianity and now repenting of his action wanted to come back to Hinduism. He got reconverted to Hinduism with Holy mother’s approval. After certain purificatory ceremonies, one of the Holy Mother’s monastic followers gave him the sacred thread and the Gayatri mantra. The next day he was initiated by the Mother herself.
Thought for the day
Success of a religious body depends not on its external achievements; efficient organization, its buildings, the size of its membership or its philanthropic activities but upon the inner life of each of its members and the measure of their progress towards devotion and knowledge of God. –Swaami Brahmaanand
One should not go after religious bodies which are spreading on the strength of money, media, inducements and force. The religious head should be asked, “Have you seen God? Have you shown God to others?” To these direct questions only one person could answer directly in the affirmative. “Yes! I have seen god! I have shown Him to others and I can show Him to You!” That person is Bhagavaan Raamakrishna Paramhans.
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