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Masa  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 4:37 pm
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: aut...@infoseek.jp (Masa)
Date: 28 Dec 2004 03:07:24 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 4:37 pm
Subject: slang forum
I'm now focusing on English slangs and dirty words.
Would you recommend a kind of forum in which one can ask questions
about
slangs freely?
Most language forums don't deal with expressions as you see in porn
sites
or things like that, and those words used there can't be found in
dictionaries, so it's a constant worry for non-natives who're learning
a
foreign language on an advanced stage.
I'm now picking up such phrases in my E-mail magazine, but  no sure
source of information or knowledge as provided by english-speaking
natives
on the net.
Slangs or dirty words are also words.
In fact, it's not easy to dare to bring about them for questioning in
linguestic forums like here.

So, I want to be introduced a forum to be able to discuss them with no
constraint.


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voice_imitator  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 5:30 pm
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From: "voice_imitator" <voiceimita...@gmail.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2004 04:00:15 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
Dear Masa,

You can probably ask anything here anyway. Bring it on. I'd love to see
how many blushes you can rack up.

If you're really not comfortable with that, and you want to ask
questions along the lines of, "What sexual practice does this word
refer to?", you can probably go to just about any general forum, or
even any chatroom, and you'll probably find someone who knows and who's
game enough to answer.

If you want to ask about the usage or etymology of a slang term, as
opposed to its meaning, I'm skeptical you'll be able to find an x-rated
version of AUE, so you might as well ask here.

Incidentally, dictionaries of slang or obscene words do exist. And you
can always try googling.
=====

Regards,

VI

http://kenm.mydeardiary.com/


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CyberCypher  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 6:40 pm
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From: CyberCypher <cybercyp...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2004 13:10:28 GMT
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
Masa wrote on 28 Dec 2004:

> I'm now focusing on English slangs and dirty words.
> Would you recommend a kind of forum in which one can ask questions
> about slangs freely?
> Most language forums don't deal with expressions as you see in
> porn sites or things like that, and those words used there can't
> be found in dictionaries, so it's a constant worry for non-natives
> who're learning a foreign language on an advanced stage.

I don't know where you get the idea that learning the language of
pornography has anything to do with learning learning a language "on an  
advanced stage". Gutter language is gutter language unless you have a
reason to know it. Slang in general is not something that most native
speakers are necessarily familiar with. Slang is either the kind that
you find in the popular media, and then almost everyone knows about it,
or else the kind you find in closed or fairly restricted communities,
and then only a few people know it, and that is the purpose of a great
deal of slang: a sign that one is a member of a particular group
because only the members know what the slang means.

> I'm now picking up such phrases in my E-mail magazine, but  no
> sure source of information or knowledge as provided by
> english-speaking natives on the net.

So provide us with sentences that you want translated into regular
English.

> Slangs or dirty words are also words.

Yeah, and scumbags are human beings too. So what? Cut the platitude
crap and ask your questions. If anyone feels the questions are
interesting enough to answer, you will get answers. There is no call to
attempt to justify your perversion (you must think it's perverted to
read and use and want to know the meanings of these porno expressions
or you wouldn't be trying to justify yourself so hard, nor would you
feel a need to defend that kind of language).

> In fact, it's not easy to dare to bring about them for questioning
> in linguestic forums like here.

> So, I want to be introduced a forum to be able to discuss them
> with no constraint.

We deal with all words without embarrassment here, but only if the
questions are interesting. Learning that kind of language is part of
growing up in any culture, but people who have only a prurient interest
in learning this kind of language are usually not interesting enough to
respond to.

--
Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
For email, replace numbers with English alphabet.


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david_dance  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 7:45 pm
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From: "david_dance" <david_da...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:15:10 GMT
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum

"Masa" <aut...@infoseek.jp> wrote in message

news:86daf69f.0412280307.746f6bf4@posting.google.com...

> I'm now focusing on English slangs and dirty words.

You will find a good selection here, including some naughty ones.

http://www.aldertons.com/english-.htm


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Tony Cooper  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 7:55 pm
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From: Tony Cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:25:13 GMT
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
On 28 Dec 2004 03:07:24 -0800, aut...@infoseek.jp (Masa) wrote:

We wouldn't say "slangs".  It's always singular.  When slang is
referred to in the plural, the it's "slang expressions" or "slang
words".  

You can bring up the words and terms you see on porn sites here when
you don't understand the usage.  I suspect most of us would be able to
explain them if they are "real" words.  I don't open porn sites, but
the invitations I receive in porn site solicitations often contain
non-real words that are put in the email to avoid spam traps.  I
sometimes see "chery", instead of "cherry" because "cherry" might be a
blocked word.

Try http://www.urbandictionary.com/  for the word or term first,
though.  Rey Aman links his page to:
http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/

I think that understanding obscene words is a necessary part of being
able to deal with English.  You need to be able to understand what you
read, and you will come across obscenities in your reading.   If you
don't understand the terms, you may think an article about muff diving
is about an occupation that involves retrieving fur hand warmers that
have been dropped in deep water.


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Charles Riggs  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 9:05 pm
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From: Charles Riggs <chriggs@comcást.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:35:35 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:25:13 GMT, Tony Cooper

<tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>You can bring up the words and terms you see on porn sites here when
>you don't understand the usage.  I suspect most of us would be able to
>explain them if they are "real" words.

Many of us, anyway.

> I don't open porn sites

This sort of statement has always bothered me. Are the people
expressing their assumed moral superiority over those of us who do,
even realizing that accessing sexually explicit information and
pictures is the most popular use the Internet has? (True, by the way,
on both sides of the pond.) Or are these people ashamed of expressing
their God-given interest in the opposite sex or their natural lust,
even, for women or men, as the case may be? A very American thing to
do, I'd say, but not so popular in more open Europe.

--
Charles Riggs

They are no accented letters in my email address


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Tony Cooper  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 9:46 pm
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From: Tony Cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:16:40 GMT
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 9:46 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:35:35 -0800, Charles Riggs

I'm not taking a moral position.  Just one of complete lack of
interest.  I don't open the sites offered to me in email for diet
products, money making schemes, or Warez software, either.  

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Ravenwolf  
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 More options Dec 29 2004, 11:47 am
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From: Ravenwolf <max.po...@outlander.bob7.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:17:05 -0600
Local: Wed, Dec 29 2004 11:47 am
Subject: Re: slang forum
aut...@infoseek.jp (Masa) wrote in news:86daf69f.0412280307.746f6bf4
@posting.google.com:

This is not exactly what you are looking for, but www.urbandictionary.com
has a lot of new slang words.

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Charles Riggs  
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 More options Dec 29 2004, 10:31 pm
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From: Charles Riggs <chriggs@comcást.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:01:48 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 29 2004 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:16:40 GMT, Tony Cooper

If you have a complete lack of interest in women's bodies, perhaps
you'd find some interest in men's. Give it a shot, why don't you? and
see what works best for you.
--
Charles Riggs

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Django Cat  
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 More options Dec 28 2004, 11:17 pm
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From: Django Cat <nos...@please.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:47:56 +0000
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum

Scarily unreliable and largely incomprehensible to people who have
never read Viz magazine - many of whom are entirely hatstand anyway.

DC, fnarr fnarr


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Jordan Abel  
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 More options Jan 2 2005, 2:44 pm
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From: Jordan Abel <jma...@purdue.edu>
Date: 2 Jan 2005 09:14:45 GMT
Local: Sun, Jan 2 2005 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: slang forum
On 2004-12-28, voice_imitator <voiceimita...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Masa,

> You can probably ask anything here anyway. Bring it on. I'd love to
> see how many blushes you can rack up.

> If you're really not comfortable with that, and you want to ask ques-
> tions along the lines of, "What sexual practice does this word refer
> to?",

For that it's usually worth a glance at urbandictionary - people some-
times make up words with the purpose in mind to disgust, but being armed
with a word you've actually seen used negates that problem

--
Feel free to comment on my hyphenation - annoying? acceptable? anyone
know a program to do it automatically?


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